Tuesday, February 21, 2012

another forum talking about the 21 foot rule


Tuesday, February 14, 2012

The citizens are terrorists?


Is he saying that protect and serve is over and the police are now soldiers? So citizens are now suspects? What is he saying exactly? Are citizens the new terror threat?

Is militarizing the police a good idea?

Thursday, February 9, 2012

Seattle Police "engaged in a pattern of excessive force that violates federal law and the Constitution."

Inside SPD's Use–Of–Force Training: In December, the Justice Department determined that the Seattle Police "engaged in a pattern of excessive force that violates federal law and the Constitution." How are police trained? When is force elevated? What is it like to come face–to–face with an armed suspect? What is the "21–foot rule?" We look deeper at police use of force today.


keeping everyone 21 feet away impossible


That being said, whenever I see self defense situations discussed on forums, facebook pages, Youtube and the like I am overwhelmed by how many people spout phrases along the lines of, "If you let someone get that close to you, you have already failed," or, "I would never let someone that close to me." Then someone, somewhere, will bring up the Tueller Drill (or, in lay terms, the 21-foot rule) and say something like, "If a bad guy gets within 21 feet of you you're dead!"

Monday, February 6, 2012

Gun forum advice

this guy maybe doesn't have it all right, but he is on to something.
 If you ask someone who carries a pistol about dealing with edged weapons they will likely mumble something about “not bringing a knife to a gun fight”, or something even less understandable about the 21 foot rule. Most of them will have never done the 21 foot drill, and if they did they probably concentrated on drawing and putting rounds on target instead of getting cut.

Even though the research screams that you are very unlikely to see the edged weapon you are attacked with, for some reason we just cannot let go of training to shoot a bad guy holding a butcher knife glaring at us from seven yards away. We either train against that or the same guy charging us when he is given the signal. For our purposes here we will discuss the latter.


and here a different forum with the exact posting but different people replying:

Yeah, I am watching you and I know what you think.